Official 1.07 Superchest thread
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Okay, here are some values of runes on 1.07 ironically the values are a bit different on 1.09 and 1.10. I recalculated them for 1.07, with the forced locked at players 1 with an expected value of 25% good drops from superchests, fresh from 1.07 treasureclassEx. Yes the fact Zod is more common than Cham is correct -.-. This means the chance of neither a Jo Cham or Zod together is ~75% on act 5 and Jo and Cham together neither is ~80%. In my old 70% calculation I forgot the lower good chance drops so I corrected it a bit, in the disadvantage I am sorry for you Pharphis.
Expected patterns players 1
Expected patterns players 1
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Hel 16,04
Po 10,69
Lum 8,14
Ko 5,43
Fal 4,10
Lem 2,74
Pul 2,06
Um 1,37
Mal 1,03
Ist 0,688
Gul 0,516
Vex 0,344
Ohm 0,260
Lo 0,173
Sur 0,129
Ber 0,0861
Jo 0,0646
Cham 0,0430
Zod 0,0538
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Checked all my screenshots, same patterns for Lem, Um, Vex 1, Vex 2 and Lo already listed. I also have 3 different patterns for Fal:
Updated based on all posts in thread thus far:
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A4:
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A5:
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@Burgomaster3 Your ko rune screenshot link was a duplicate of one of your lums. Can you double check what you had?
@others, for the 4th lum pattern, I didn't see any blue items or other runes, so I left it blank. I'm guessing we don't count scrolls or other things for these tables but I could be wrong. In Fal#3, I included the el rune
Ok, next post will include patterns from my screenshots from the last few weeks.
A3:
Code:
Rune Item 1 Item 2 Item 3
#1 Hel Rune Greaves
#2 Hel Rune Heavy Cr.
#1 Po Rune Gauntlets Heavy Belt
#2 Po Rune War Hat War Hat
#3 Po Rune Field Plate
#4 Po Rune Repeating C Embossed P
#1 Lum Rune Serpentskin A
#2 Lum Rune Gauntlets
#3 Lum Rune ---
#1 Ko Rune Gothic Plate
#1 Fal Rune Ogre Axe Gothic Plate
#2 Fal Rune Fuscina Gothic Plate
#3 Fal Rune Grave Wand El Rune
#1 Lem Rune Chain Mail
#2 Lem Rune Cudgel Military Pick
#3 Lem Rune Griffon H
#1 Um Rune Pavise D Gloves
#2 Um Rune Glowing Orb
#1 Gul Rune Halberd
#1 Vex Rune Barbed Club Griffon H Sun Spirit
#2 Vex Rune Quhab Cuirass
#1 Lo Rune Balanced KnifeA4:
-empty for now-
A5:
-empty for now-
@Burgomaster3 Your ko rune screenshot link was a duplicate of one of your lums. Can you double check what you had?
@others, for the 4th lum pattern, I didn't see any blue items or other runes, so I left it blank. I'm guessing we don't count scrolls or other things for these tables but I could be wrong. In Fal#3, I included the el rune
Ok, next post will include patterns from my screenshots from the last few weeks.
Ok, adding some patterns for All 3 acts from my own screenshots
A3:
A4:
A5:
I've attached the "blank" hel rune pattern for clarification if necessary
A3:
Code:
Rune Item 1 Item 2 Item 3
#1 Hel Rune Greaves
#2 Hel Rune Heavy Cr.
#3 Hel Rune Coronet Flanged M Gothic S
#4 Hel Rune ---
#1 Po Rune Gauntlets Heavy Belt
#2 Po Rune War Hat War Hat
#3 Po Rune Field Plate
#4 Po Rune Repeating C Embossed P
#5 Po Rune Plate Mail Gothic P Gothic S
#1 Lum Rune Serpentskin A
#2 Lum Rune Gauntlets
#3 Lum Rune ---
#1 Ko Rune Gothic Plate
#2 Ko Rune Mask
#1 Fal Rune Ogre Axe Gothic Plate
#2 Fal Rune Fuscina Gothic Plate
#3 Fal Rune Grave Wand El Rune
#4 Fal Rune War Hammer
#1 Lem Rune Chain Mail
#2 Lem Rune Cudgel Military Pick
#3 Lem Rune Griffon H
#1 Um Rune Pavise D Gloves
#2 Um Rune Glowing Orb
#1 Gul Rune Halberd
#1 Vex Rune Barbed Club Griffon H Sun Spirit
#2 Vex Rune Quhab Cuirass
#1 Lo Rune Balanced KnifeA4:
Code:
Rune Item 1 Item 2 Item 3
#1 Hel Rune D Gloves Gauntlets
#2 Hel Rune Amulet Throwing S
Code:
Rune Item 1 Item 2 Item 3
#1 Hel Rune Quhab
#2 Hel Rune Winged H Jewel
#1 Lum Rune Ring
#2 Lum Rune Amulet
#1 Ko Rune Ring War Scythe Grand CharmI've attached the "blank" hel rune pattern for clarification if necessary
Ok, going through my screenshots from before my giveaway to add other patterns since there are quite a few... I think I've covered ALL of them, now.
A3:
A4:
A5:
Interestingly, only one pul pattern so far, and it's in A4
A3:
Code:
Rune Item 1 Item 2 Item 3
#1 Hel Rune Greaves
#2 Hel Rune Heavy Cr.
#3 Hel Rune Coronet Flanged M Gothic S
#4 Hel Rune ---
#5 Hel Rune Pike
#1 Po Rune Gauntlets Heavy Belt
#2 Po Rune War Hat War Hat
#3 Po Rune Field Plate
#4 Po Rune Repeating C Embossed P
#5 Po Rune Plate Mail Gothic P Gothic S
#6 Po Rune Lochaber A Smoked S Barbed Club
#7 Po Rune Great Sword Gothic P
#8 Po Rune Great Maul Breat Plate
#1 Lum Rune Serpentskin A
#2 Lum Rune Gauntlets
#3 Lum Rune ---
#4 Lum Rune War Hammer
#5 Lum Rune Poignard
#1 Ko Rune Gothic Plate
#2 Ko Rune Mask
#3 Ko Rune Circlet Gothic Shield
#4 Ko Rune Great Maul Throwing Spear
#5 Ko Rune Light Plate Gothic Plate
#6 Ko Rune Giant Sword Gothic Plate Cleaver + Antlers
#1 Fal Rune Ogre Axe Gothic Plate
#2 Fal Rune Fuscina Gothic Plate
#3 Fal Rune Grave Wand El Rune
#4 Fal Rune War Hammer
#5 Fal Rune Plated Belt
#6 Fal Rune Military Pick
#7 Fal Rune Defender Sharksin Boots Poignard
#1 Lem Rune Chain Mail
#2 Lem Rune Cudgel Military Pick
#3 Lem Rune Griffon H
#1 Um Rune Pavise D Gloves
#2 Um Rune Glowing Orb
#1 Gul Rune Halberd
#1 Vex Rune Barbed Club Griffon H Sun Spirit
#2 Vex Rune Quhab Cuirass
#1 Lo Rune Balanced KnifeA4:
Code:
Rune Item 1 Item 2 Item 3
#1 Hel Rune D Gloves Gauntlets
#2 Hel Rune Amulet Throwing S
#1 Po Rune Long War Bow
#2 Po Rune Gauntlets Gothic P
#1 Ko Rune Great Maul
#1 Fal Rune Gothic Plate
#1 Lem Rune Plate Mail War Axe
#2 Lem Rune ---
#1 Pul Rune Rune Bow
Code:
Rune Item 1 Item 2 Item 3
#1 Hel Rune Quhab
#2 Hel Rune Winged H Jewel
#3 Hel Rune Poignard Greaves
#1 Lum Rune Ring
#2 Lum Rune Amulet
#3 Lum Rune Demon Heart Great Helm Great Sword
#1 Ko Rune Ring War Scythe Grand Charm
#1 Fal Rune Bone Shield
#2 Fal Rune Gauntlets Shamshir Grand Charm + AmuletInterestingly, only one pul pattern so far, and it's in A4
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quick question here: Nihlathak's Halls have a "fixed" map and also some interesting chests right? Did you try to run them for high runes and skiller? I assume someone did for sure. I know this thread is more about LK chests but I'm just curious, it could be interesting.
This thread is for any superchests people are willing to run. The most viable ones are LK followed by RoF, followed VERY CLOSELY by A5 chests (in terms of chests/sec) depending on the pattern distribution. We can't say for sure until we've found some HRs to compare them for overall efficiency, though.
edit: As mentioned earlier in the thread, arcane sanctuary might be a worthwhile target as well even though the upper limit for HRs is much lower (Lo?)
I currently run 2x RoF + 2x halls of ___ chests on one of my sorcs so that's 2x A4 and 2x A5 chests per run, at about 30 seconds per run iirc. One can very easily get the 2 quickest chests in nihl's temple (I think 1/9 if there are 3 maps for the first two floors). There are also tons of other objects that can be popped as well as relatively slow/easy enemies for the most part
The advantage that RoF/A5 have over LK is that they can drop the best of the best charms (45/skill tree), as well as theoretically mal/ist/ohm/sur/ber/jah/cham/zod but again we don't know if any of these will drop, yet. (I think we can be reasonably certain that LK doesn't drop mal/ist/ohm/sur/ber given the number of years people have been running 1.07 LK)
edit: As mentioned earlier in the thread, arcane sanctuary might be a worthwhile target as well even though the upper limit for HRs is much lower (Lo?)
I currently run 2x RoF + 2x halls of ___ chests on one of my sorcs so that's 2x A4 and 2x A5 chests per run, at about 30 seconds per run iirc. One can very easily get the 2 quickest chests in nihl's temple (I think 1/9 if there are 3 maps for the first two floors). There are also tons of other objects that can be popped as well as relatively slow/easy enemies for the most part
The advantage that RoF/A5 have over LK is that they can drop the best of the best charms (45/skill tree), as well as theoretically mal/ist/ohm/sur/ber/jah/cham/zod but again we don't know if any of these will drop, yet. (I think we can be reasonably certain that LK doesn't drop mal/ist/ohm/sur/ber given the number of years people have been running 1.07 LK)
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Hey thanks for the detailed answer! I'll be sure to check them out in act5. It's been a while since I really grinded like this (played PoE for a long time and map offers some variation, but boy do I get feed up quickly, but that's me I have friends who prefer mapping or doing rifts). I kind of like how you can really tailor your grinding in d2.
Tried to watch your stream recordings earlier, its nice but make me dizzy. Something about the speed and not actually playing, oh well. Thanks again for the answer.
Tried to watch your stream recordings earlier, its nice but make me dizzy. Something about the speed and not actually playing, oh well. Thanks again for the answer.
understandable 
I can hardly watch other people play D2 if they're playing really fast.
I don't think it was in my most recent stream (maybe it was) but in one of them I was doing the A4/A5 chests, so you can see what kind of map you need there. Anyway, I'll describe what I do:
Tele down-left a few times from WP to superchest. Tele up-left to the stairs going back up a floor (center of the area like always). Then I tele up-right like 3 times to the other superchest (it's in the little corner of the big room). I think this is as efficient as it can get
I can hardly watch other people play D2 if they're playing really fast.
I don't think it was in my most recent stream (maybe it was) but in one of them I was doing the A4/A5 chests, so you can see what kind of map you need there. Anyway, I'll describe what I do:
Tele down-left a few times from WP to superchest. Tele up-left to the stairs going back up a floor (center of the area like always). Then I tele up-right like 3 times to the other superchest (it's in the little corner of the big room). I think this is as efficient as it can get
@pharphis The fact we have only one pul confirmed from rof and noone from LK doesn't suprise me the slightest. As I posted in my table the expected value is 2,06 that means there is a 70% chance of 2 Pul patterns and 91% chance of one or two Pul patterns. That means there is a 9% chance there is no Pul pattern. As I posted in the ROF thread the fact there is no Jah pattern when the expected rate is 2 is still 10%. Count yourselves very lucky with the double Vex pattern (maybe triple if the rumors are true!) The chance you have a double vex pattern is 3,5% so yeah very lucky indeed!
Also the blank patterns, did they contain any throwing pots? They do count as a valid weapon drop and therefore as a valid piece of equipemt!
Also the blank patterns, did they contain any throwing pots? They do count as a valid weapon drop and therefore as a valid piece of equipemt!
I'd have to double check but I'm not sure. I think one or more of them did, and I also think there might be more to it according to some jjscud posts I was reading last night.
edit: check post 26 for an image with no throwing pots and a hel rune ;/
edit: check post 26 for an image with no throwing pots and a hel rune ;/
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Just looking through some old screenies, found a Po rune drop in LK from a plain old 'stash'. Pretty sure that's the highest I've seen drop outside of the superchests.
Added hel #3 #4, lum#1 for A4. Duplicated the pul find as well.
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A4:
A5:
A3:
Code:
Rune Item 1 Item 2 Item 3
#1 Hel Rune Greaves
#2 Hel Rune Heavy Cr.
#3 Hel Rune Coronet Flanged M Gothic S
#4 Hel Rune ---
#5 Hel Rune Pike
#1 Po Rune Gauntlets Heavy Belt
#2 Po Rune War Hat War Hat
#3 Po Rune Field Plate
#4 Po Rune Repeating C Embossed P
#5 Po Rune Plate Mail Gothic P Gothic S
#6 Po Rune Lochaber A Smoked S Barbed Club
#7 Po Rune Great Sword Gothic P
#8 Po Rune Great Maul Breat Plate
#1 Lum Rune Serpentskin A
#2 Lum Rune Gauntlets
#3 Lum Rune ---
#4 Lum Rune War Hammer
#5 Lum Rune Poignard
#1 Ko Rune Gothic Plate
#2 Ko Rune Mask
#3 Ko Rune Circlet Gothic Shield
#4 Ko Rune Great Maul Throwing Spear
#5 Ko Rune Light Plate Gothic Plate
#6 Ko Rune Giant Sword Gothic Plate Cleaver + Antlers
#1 Fal Rune Ogre Axe Gothic Plate
#2 Fal Rune Fuscina Gothic Plate
#3 Fal Rune Grave Wand El Rune
#4 Fal Rune War Hammer
#5 Fal Rune Plated Belt
#6 Fal Rune Military Pick
#7 Fal Rune Defender Sharksin Boots Poignard
#1 Lem Rune Chain Mail
#2 Lem Rune Cudgel Military Pick
#3 Lem Rune Griffon H
#1 Um Rune Pavise D Gloves
#2 Um Rune Glowing Orb
#1 Gul Rune Halberd
#1 Vex Rune Barbed Club Griffon H Sun Spirit
#2 Vex Rune Quhab Cuirass
#1 Lo Rune Balanced KnifeA4:
Code:
Rune Item 1 Item 2 Item 3
#1 Hel Rune D Gloves Gauntlets
#2 Hel Rune Amulet Throwing S
#3 Hel Rune Quhab
#4 Hel Rune Amn Rune Cryst. Globe
#1 Po Rune Long War Bow
#2 Po Rune Gauntlets Gothic P
#1 Lum Rune Shamshir Crossbow
#1 Ko Rune Great Maul
#1 Fal Rune Gothic Plate
#1 Lem Rune Plate Mail War Axe
#2 Lem Rune ---
#1 Pul Rune Rune Bow
Code:
Rune Item 1 Item 2 Item 3
#1 Hel Rune Quhab
#2 Hel Rune Winged H Jewel
#3 Hel Rune Poignard Greaves
#1 Lum Rune Ring
#2 Lum Rune Amulet
#3 Lum Rune Demon Heart Great Helm Great Sword
#1 Ko Rune Ring War Scythe Grand Charm
#1 Fal Rune Bone Shield
#2 Fal Rune Gauntlets Shamshir Grand Charm + AmuletFound another ko rune for LK w/ some necro wand... I took a screenshot but I don't see it in my folders
So, Ko#7 coming up eventually?
So, Ko#7 coming up eventually?
Ah, I think this post makes my efforts for A5 not exactly worthwhile:
So perhaps I just need one more clarification: do type 455 objects drop magic/rares only or was jjscud looking at the type of chest that drops sets/uniques? I think based on the location the chest should be magic/rares only but I'm not certain. 4.3 billion patterns leaves very marginal room for improvement (deviation from normal chance of zod, etc. runes) compared to similar objects.
So perhaps I just need one more clarification: do type 455 objects drop magic/rares only or was jjscud looking at the type of chest that drops sets/uniques? I think based on the location the chest should be magic/rares only but I'm not certain. 4.3 billion patterns leaves very marginal room for improvement (deviation from normal chance of zod, etc. runes) compared to similar objects.
A3:
A4:
A5:
Screenshots still messed up, so relying on prnt scrn and paint lol
Lem #4 added. There may have been a third item but there were too many monsters around. Almost died a few times lol
Code:
Rune Item 1 Item 2 Item 3
#1 Hel Rune Greaves
#2 Hel Rune Heavy Cr.
#3 Hel Rune Coronet Flanged M Gothic S
#4 Hel Rune ---
#5 Hel Rune Pike
#1 Po Rune Gauntlets Heavy Belt
#2 Po Rune War Hat War Hat
#3 Po Rune Field Plate
#4 Po Rune Repeating C Embossed P
#5 Po Rune Plate Mail Gothic P Gothic S
#6 Po Rune Lochaber A Smoked S Barbed Club
#7 Po Rune Great Sword Gothic P
#8 Po Rune Great Maul Breat Plate
#1 Lum Rune Serpentskin A
#2 Lum Rune Gauntlets
#3 Lum Rune ---
#4 Lum Rune War Hammer
#5 Lum Rune Poignard
#1 Ko Rune Gothic Plate
#2 Ko Rune Mask
#3 Ko Rune Circlet Gothic Shield
#4 Ko Rune Great Maul Throwing Spear
#5 Ko Rune Light Plate Gothic Plate
#6 Ko Rune Giant Sword Gothic Plate Cleaver + Antlers
#1 Fal Rune Ogre Axe Gothic Plate
#2 Fal Rune Fuscina Gothic Plate
#3 Fal Rune Grave Wand El Rune
#4 Fal Rune War Hammer
#5 Fal Rune Plated Belt
#6 Fal Rune Military Pick
#7 Fal Rune Defender Sharksin Boots Poignard
#1 Lem Rune Chain Mail
#2 Lem Rune Cudgel Military Pick
#3 Lem Rune Griffon H
#4 Lem Rune Mesh Armor Poleaxe
#1 Um Rune Pavise D Gloves
#2 Um Rune Glowing Orb
#1 Gul Rune Halberd
#1 Vex Rune Barbed Club Griffon H Sun Spirit
#2 Vex Rune Quhab Cuirass
#1 Lo Rune Balanced KnifeA4:
Code:
Rune Item 1 Item 2 Item 3
#1 Hel Rune D Gloves Gauntlets
#2 Hel Rune Amulet Throwing S
#3 Hel Rune Quhab
#4 Hel Rune Amn Rune Cryst. Globe
#1 Po Rune Long War Bow
#2 Po Rune Gauntlets Gothic P
#1 Lum Rune Shamshir Crossbow
#1 Ko Rune Great Maul
#1 Fal Rune Gothic Plate
#1 Lem Rune Plate Mail War Axe
#2 Lem Rune ---
#1 Pul Rune Rune Bow
Code:
Rune Item 1 Item 2 Item 3
#1 Hel Rune Quhab
#2 Hel Rune Winged H Jewel
#3 Hel Rune Poignard Greaves
#1 Lum Rune Ring
#2 Lum Rune Amulet
#3 Lum Rune Demon Heart Great Helm Great Sword
#1 Ko Rune Ring War Scythe Grand Charm
#1 Fal Rune Bone Shield
#2 Fal Rune Gauntlets Shamshir Grand Charm + AmuletLem #4 added. There may have been a third item but there were too many monsters around. Almost died a few times lol
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