ResTTe
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For 97 specifically Baal is definitely worth it. I was talking more about lower lvls.
My 4k CS runs gave me like 2 TC 87 items and it took me almost 100 hours. Baalruns gave me like 20 of them in 130 hours. They both aren't good for item finding that's for sure, but Baal is still better even after taking my luck into consideration. Can always calculate the chances, but i honestly have no idea where can you get TC87s from in CS XD Is it even worth it to take P1 minions into consideration? You won't be killing some random packs at 97 if you want to focus on exp, right? On the other hand, those saved 7 hours will give you more items in Pits than any of those 2 mentioned, so it should be better to go CS? There is also HR aspect of Baalruns, but the probability of finding like Ber or Jah even in the whole 90-98 lvling is like 30% or some shit. Cumulative chance for vex+ should be way higher than that and higher than in CS, but we are only talking about 97-98, so it kind flattens.
You don't loose time picking up items when running waves, but you loose some time picking up items from Baal and when you identify them at Cain. You can always push it and do it quickly, but i don't think i want to be focused on the game 100% for 100 hours doing the same shit ^^ My average over 2k runs was sub 3:50, but i wasn't really pushing it that much for mentioned reasons.
Yeah, for purely exping reasons, CS is better, but it's way more demanding imo. Btw, did you check how berserk compares to WW in CS? You have to howl minions away to focus on the seal boss, so you miss out on that minions' exp, so it should be worse. I went with berserk on my barb later on, but i was using totally different gear, so WW wouldn't work out for MF imo.
Yeah, you won't get that Vipers' bug without merc, but it's still kinda risky to play without crowd control. Witches and archers can hit hard. You've done Nihla with melee Pala, so maybe you know a little bit more. I would definitely focus on getting some higher life leech to compensate for the luck of Delirium.
Stone Skin Nihla takes significantly longer to kill, therefore he is more annyoing, that's for sure. The probability of dying is higher. He has more time to teleport around, so those runs can get significantly longer. I tested running with and without Howl over those runs i did. Both approaches have their pros and cons, but you can definitely play without it. Berserk sounds like a good idea, cause you have like 500ed conc vs 50 phys res nihla with the standard build, and 600ed berserk vs 25 magic res nihla with the berserk build. You loose leech, but it still should be worth it imo ^^
My 4k CS runs gave me like 2 TC 87 items and it took me almost 100 hours. Baalruns gave me like 20 of them in 130 hours. They both aren't good for item finding that's for sure, but Baal is still better even after taking my luck into consideration. Can always calculate the chances, but i honestly have no idea where can you get TC87s from in CS XD Is it even worth it to take P1 minions into consideration? You won't be killing some random packs at 97 if you want to focus on exp, right? On the other hand, those saved 7 hours will give you more items in Pits than any of those 2 mentioned, so it should be better to go CS? There is also HR aspect of Baalruns, but the probability of finding like Ber or Jah even in the whole 90-98 lvling is like 30% or some shit. Cumulative chance for vex+ should be way higher than that and higher than in CS, but we are only talking about 97-98, so it kind flattens.
You don't loose time picking up items when running waves, but you loose some time picking up items from Baal and when you identify them at Cain. You can always push it and do it quickly, but i don't think i want to be focused on the game 100% for 100 hours doing the same shit ^^ My average over 2k runs was sub 3:50, but i wasn't really pushing it that much for mentioned reasons.
Yeah, for purely exping reasons, CS is better, but it's way more demanding imo. Btw, did you check how berserk compares to WW in CS? You have to howl minions away to focus on the seal boss, so you miss out on that minions' exp, so it should be worse. I went with berserk on my barb later on, but i was using totally different gear, so WW wouldn't work out for MF imo.
Yeah, you won't get that Vipers' bug without merc, but it's still kinda risky to play without crowd control. Witches and archers can hit hard. You've done Nihla with melee Pala, so maybe you know a little bit more. I would definitely focus on getting some higher life leech to compensate for the luck of Delirium.
Stone Skin Nihla takes significantly longer to kill, therefore he is more annyoing, that's for sure. The probability of dying is higher. He has more time to teleport around, so those runs can get significantly longer. I tested running with and without Howl over those runs i did. Both approaches have their pros and cons, but you can definitely play without it. Berserk sounds like a good idea, cause you have like 500ed conc vs 50 phys res nihla with the standard build, and 600ed berserk vs 25 magic res nihla with the berserk build. You loose leech, but it still should be worth it imo ^^